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lead us in whenever you're ready oh i

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lead us in

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don't you remember how this show works i

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don't i'm not gonna lie i

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i think that this is possibly the best

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way to start uh how long has it been

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it's been like three years since we did

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this show i think so

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yeah um so i guess leading it in i just

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say like hi

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everyone i'm amy and this is my lovely

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that's how we roll yeah we roll

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um i'm i'm fine with it

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it's this this is i i like to think of

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this as our little joint pot of

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spaghetti that we're tossing against a

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wall and just kind of playing around

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with and seeing what works and what

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i love that description i'm gonna put

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that in the youtube description

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fantastic also sidebar i do not advocate

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throwing pots of spaghetti at walls

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because whoever has to clean it up is

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going to be very unhappy with you

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my experience is cathartic it sounds

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like a good idea it's fun

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at the time but you have to clean that

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[\h__\h] up yes my ex used to actually do

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and would just actually hurl like four

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or five meals at the wall and i was like

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what is wrong with you you're a 27 year

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old man stop

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literally throwing food at walls yeah i

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had to clean it up

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i was not happy about that but that was

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the only way he claimed he could

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understand when pasta was ready and i'm

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like that's not a real thing that's

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that's gotta be an old wife's tale

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no especially if you're doing like

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ravioli or something that's just gross

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whoa anyways um i feel like

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nattering we should probably discuss

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what we are both drinking

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would you like to start

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sure sure i can start so

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because we're kind of doing a

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halloweeny type episode

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because of the time of year that it is

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um i thought i'd go with something more

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on the halloween brand here

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so i have an elysian uh night owl it's a

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pumpkin so nice

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yeah so that sounds really good they had

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a fun 12 pack this year a case a sample

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sample pack of four different halloween

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themed beers a pumpkin themed beers and

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one had a pumpkin on it

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that looked really creepy um but yeah

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fun i i enjoy going through

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through pumpkin beers and it's

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especially good when they're creepy

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so i haven't i haven't been to my liquor

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in about six months because i keep

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what i need at the grocery store which

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your basic liquors they have not had any

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bland g in my lovely vintage glassware

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you got it at least i'm wearing a themed

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i feel a bit better about that it counts

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for dusting off uh this little show of

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ours by the way

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yeah yeah um should we

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recount where this came from and why we

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went on hiatus for three years

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this life i mean life

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a of all um this but this came up i

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happens in vegas we do we do hatch a lot

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i was going to say it must have been

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that christmas oh that's right so

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it has to have been before then and i

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yeah but basically i mean i feel like

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somehow it came together

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it came together and like all podcasts

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hang out and drink together more often

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so why not do that you know you you do a

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so it was just a great idea and a lot of

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it's it's unapologetic but we wanted a

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to just kind of throw all of our things

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um hang out talk have friends on

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talk to them about the shared interests

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which is great and we did it for 14 or

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life got in the way yeah and then we

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and now we're back and we're back yeah

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we've done a little house cleaning

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a little bit of a branding refresh yes

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oh my god by the way i'm gonna put it on

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how much i love the new opening yeah it

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so much fun yeah krista makes from less

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was awesome enough to create our new

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theme song so big thanks to chris for

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we love it yeah it's fantastic it's

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super on brand for us

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um kudos to you for the editing on it

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oh thanks man yeah it's it's awesome i

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yeah sweet it's our brand it looks it

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looks good it sounds good and when

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you've got good music going with it it's

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yeah it all comes together nicely um

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so so if you didn't pay attention to the

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theme song or haven't read the

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description for the show

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or don't know anything about us uh yeah

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all of that stuff and i feel like we

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at this with some expertise because my

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believe poster behind you

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um it's there yeah so that's that's

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of whenever it was we hatched this baby

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have a pet interest in space

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yeah and whether it's like real space or

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whether it's just like loving

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wanting to dig into that stuff like

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there's a natural crossover so that's

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stuff that we really enjoy that kind of

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the real focus and the real reason we

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their other interests that tie in with

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what they do and what they're known for

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using awakeness and it just made me it

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just made me think back at the time we

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space society still so he's like super

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huge in that but he's also like a punk

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york in the 70s and 80s and like

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space fest yeah

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people all day and i think both jeff and

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that like when he's on he's so on and

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i know it's draining and he he can't he

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that interview on like our own show as

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opposed to

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you know working for some major company

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or whatever because i

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was i think i remember asking us to just

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call it because i couldn't keep my eyes

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open anymore

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so fun times at times there will be yeah

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i mean it's that's not like a good

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shenanigans necessarily but

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i'll mark that under shenanigans for for

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like the worst possible incarnation of

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shenanigans but

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oh absolutely the show is all about

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shenanigans i mean we're not

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not guaranteeing that they're good i

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mean yeah could definitely guarantee

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there's some bad shenanigans but

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shenanigans all around yeah yeah

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it's all it's all fun um so

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i guess it's fitting it's fitting

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i mean i don't know i have no idea when

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we're re releasing this but it's october

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28th

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so just so you know according to this

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one if you're watching this

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it's probably coming out on the 30th

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we'll see if things go

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tonight so okay we're actually i you

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know i always try to squeeze it in

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yeah see see you're you're you're good

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at doing this stuff quickly and making

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it like

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on time whereas i'm like eh some point

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in the future

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but sweet all right we're getting into

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the shenanigans get in the way of things

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so we'll see but true also

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before this year will get in the way of

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literally everything

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but we're not talking about that because

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that is the true horror story

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um so yeah let's let's talk about some

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halloween

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seasonal stuff because you gave me a

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couple movies that i needed to watch and

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i have not been able to get into the

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headspace

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of like like almost deliberately awful

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halloween movies this year i think i'm

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just too exhausted always

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in the mood for that but yeah so

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i mean i i'm i'm i'm a horror fan for

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sure

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and you know not all horror

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i mean my mood changes i have to be in

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the right head space for certain certain

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horror films

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but i am not a a

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all horror person by any means um

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i'm not more gore is better i mean i

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like gore sure

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but not not realism you know i watch

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movies

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to escape reality um i don't want to see

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things that are

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are hyper realistic and you know look

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like things that could actually happen

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i like my ridiculous horror i love 80s

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slashers

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um you know yeah i i like

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the saw movies kind of but you know

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those get on the border

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where you know you're getting extremely

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graphic you're getting

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you know very very painful lots of lots

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of

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suffering happening not so good but

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those those 80s slashers and just 80s

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horror in general

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a lot of it it's over the top there are

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gallons and gallons of blood that just

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gush out ridiculously it's made to be

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funny it's it's ridiculous over-the-top

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gore and that's wonderful uh of course

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the 80s part part of 80s horror was a

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lot of nudity i can't complain about

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that

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but you know halloween when it comes to

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halloween season specifically because i

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do watch horror all year round i love it

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but when it gets around halloween time

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i i do focus on the 80s the 80s horror

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and the slashers

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and the um the series the classic

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series so my wife and i will just you

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know

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make a plan starting on october 1 then

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we're going to go through

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certain series and there are some some

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um franchises

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that we do definitely make sure that

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we're going to get through

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every single year and of course the

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halloween franchise is one of those

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friday the 13th is another and

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leprechaun is is on that list um we

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don't always make it all the way through

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leprechaun because

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leprechauns is so bad but it's so good

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um and of course one of the episodes

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i think it's uh number three leprechaun

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three

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takes place in vegas so that always

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makes me think of you amy

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good times seeing seeing vegas i feel

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like there's a veiled short joke in

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there but i'm just gonna

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walk over that yeah it's it's it's fun

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and of course leprechaun 4 takes place

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in space that's ridiculous and fun but

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uh yeah i mean that's that's kind of my

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my halloween ritual

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um what about you do you get into two

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crazy horror movies around this time

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i i have i feel like i should confess

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this i only saw halloween

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last year for the first time ever there

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is just this

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swath of movies like like i missed out

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on 80s movies

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growing up i don't really know why i was

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raised on old movies so all of my

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horror stuff goes like way back um so i

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actually

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randomly watched the addams family the

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other night that's a weird movie

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it's a really weird premise for a movie

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too

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that like there's the imposter trying to

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be the uncle to get the money and that's

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kind of like

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i was watching this movie and i'm like

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as fun as these characters are

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this clearly should have always just

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been a sitcom

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so then i of course went back to the

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original addams family show

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and it is a really weird have you ever

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watched it have you ever watched the

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original like was 1963

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no not that i recall not with any

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regularity

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it's i mean i i don't know what the the

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etiquette is for like mentioning

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services it's on amazon prime if you

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have amazon prime

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i feel like almost everybody in america

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has amazon prime because we all need

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everything instantly delivered to our

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doors without going outside right now

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um but i digress uh it is a very the

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strangest thing about this tv show

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is it makes the like the idiosyncrasies

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about each of the characters

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make sense because they're just like a

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weird family without trying to make a

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plot

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out of their weirdness but there's also

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a laugh track

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so it's like it's so i forgot that there

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was a laugh track involved and how like

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you know the whole laugh track in tv

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sitcoms it like it slows the pace of

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dialogue it's such a weird way

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plus 19 early 1960s overacting

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it's very odd but i've been so i've i've

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cut that's kind of been my

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halloween i don't know this i feel like

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i mean time is irrelevant this year so

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i've had a really hard time getting into

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like

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space

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but that's been that's been my thing i

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also like you know pete

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is not really the best to help like

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let's make a plan because he's a cat

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so you know um do i hear luna in the

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background

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yes luna likes to race in and and and

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yeah we do talk about pets yes we do

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nice of course she does um yeah so i

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haven't really gotten into like doing a

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big

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watch of things but i did i i might

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revisit some more

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i revisited uh i forget what year it is

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but the phantom of the opera

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i mean that's kind of the world that i

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go to which is like

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so on brand for my love of all things

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super

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old because like okay so let's let's do

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this

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what is it about 80s over the top gore

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that keeps you coming back

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because i feel like everyone has a thing

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that they really like

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in certain kinds of movies and i'm

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curious

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you go but you go to 80s gore and i go

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to like 1920s 1930s horror

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what's what is it about it for you

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well i think probably first

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i just i gravitate toward you know 80s

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and

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early 90s cinema first of all i mean i

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think 80s and 90s movies were

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were better and i don't know you know

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that's probably nostalgia for me you

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know it's what i grew up with

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yeah so i think that plays a big part in

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it but

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with the the 80s scores in particular i

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mean they don't

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they don't take themselves too seriously

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first of all second of all

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again it's just the over the top so for

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me it's it's a combination

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of you know horror the story

509
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the visuals but also a little bit of

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comedy touched in there

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you know yeah i mean they don't need to

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be too ridiculous but there's still that

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that

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hinge of of comedy to it a comedic

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element to it um

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it's where they're not i don't know

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they're just not taking themselves

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seriously so i'm not

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you know sitting there i mean movies in

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general

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i mean you could get all philosophical

522
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and weird here and

523
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do some psychoanalysts on yeah on

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why we like the things we do especially

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the people who like

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horror like what does that say about us

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and you know

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we'll talk about this a little more with

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streaming services because you brought

530
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that up but there

531
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are so many documentaries and things now

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about about horror movies

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and some of them i love some of them i

534
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hate because they do get too

535
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like hyper intellectual and you know

536
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philosophical when it comes to

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like you know just the thought process

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behind horror and the horror fan

539
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and like why horror the genre as a whole

540
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like perseveres and what the attraction

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is well

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give me a break i just like watching the

543
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crap on tv um

544
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you know i i don't need to to

545
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overanalyze and think about it i just i

546
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like it because

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it's ridiculous and again and especially

548
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with this year i don't know how many

549
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times we're gonna bring up this

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wonderful year we're in

551
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it's hard not to but you know sorry i

552
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brought it up like four times

553
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i really enjoy escaping reality you know

554
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when i have time which is

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not all that often these days to sit on

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my ass

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and watch tv i want to escape reality

558
00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:51,200
i want to go someplace else and i want

559
00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:52,320
it to be mindless

560
00:19:56,070 --> 00:19:54,400
you know i do enjoy good psychological

561
00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:56,080
thrillers and things like that

562
00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:58,400
but most of the time at the end of the

563
00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:00,320
day when i sit down

564
00:20:05,350 --> 00:20:02,240
and have the time to watch tv or watch a

565
00:20:08,070 --> 00:20:05,360
movie i don't want to think too hard

566
00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:08,080
i just want to sit there and laugh and

567
00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:09,760
you know since we're on the topic

568
00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:11,600
that brings up a great thing and i i've

569
00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:13,360
i've definitely recommended this to you

570
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:14,080
too

571
00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:16,400
but something my wife and i enjoy doing

572
00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:18,480
is trying to find any ridiculous

573
00:20:21,830 --> 00:20:21,120
show and mxc most extreme elimination

574
00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:21,840
challenge

575
00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:24,000
an old tv or tv show that was on the

576
00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:25,360
spike network

577
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:28,320
many years ago is wonderful because

578
00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:29,440
you're just watching people hurt

579
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:30,960
themselves basically and watching

580
00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:33,120
watching dudes you know get hit in the

581
00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:34,000
nuts and

582
00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:36,960
it's it's great fun classic comedy

583
00:20:41,029 --> 00:20:37,679
speaking of

584
00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:41,039
90s classic comedy that's just like

585
00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:43,280
the core of america's funniest home

586
00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:44,320
videos

587
00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:46,640
comma the bob saget years it was just

588
00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:47,520
people getting

589
00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:49,440
hurt with funny sound effects and

590
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:51,440
somehow that constituted like the peak

591
00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:53,280
of 90s comedy

592
00:20:57,909 --> 00:20:56,480
that was weird the 90s were weird

593
00:20:59,669 --> 00:20:57,919
that's another thing that you know you

594
00:21:02,310 --> 00:20:59,679
can you can psychoanalyze

595
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:02,320
and and say what does that say about us

596
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:04,240
that we really enjoy we get great

597
00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:05,760
pleasure out of watching other people

598
00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:06,559
get hurt

599
00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:09,520
but yes it's the best there's some there

600
00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:11,200
is definitely something to it

601
00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:13,520
and i mean yeah i don't want to get into

602
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:15,440
the psychoanalytics of it but

603
00:21:17,909 --> 00:21:16,559
for sure someone will have something to

604
00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:17,919
say about it sometimes i mean to be fair

605
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:18,640
funny

606
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:20,240
i don't really want to see people get

607
00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:21,520
like super hurt i don't want people

608
00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:23,280
breaking their arms or whatever

609
00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:24,799
but seeing a dude get hit in the junk

610
00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:27,039
that's hilarious if they get if they get

611
00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:28,799
hurt but then they walk away from it

612
00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:30,720
then it's funny if somebody like i i

613
00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:32,080
always my worst is

614
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:34,159
because my gymnastics background i

615
00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:36,240
understand a lot about how falls

616
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:38,320
work because we literally learned how to

617
00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:39,520
fall and

618
00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:40,960
whenever i see one of those things where

619
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:42,159
someone's like doing a back flip and

620
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:43,600
they land on their neck or something i'm

621
00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:44,159
just like

622
00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:46,720
oh no i know how much that breaks your

623
00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:48,240
body and it freaks me out like that's

624
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:49,120
not funny

625
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:50,480
i don't know how those end up in like

626
00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:52,400
the ultimate fail compilations it's

627
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:54,880
not funny um but what happens with

628
00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:55,760
sports too

629
00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:57,919
right i mean sports and the simpsons you

630
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:59,520
know they do that homer's watching like

631
00:22:06,890 --> 00:22:01,280
the greatest football injuries of all

632
00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:11,190
[Music]

633
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,590
this contest is over give that man the

634
00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:15,600
ten thousand dollars

635
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:17,679
this isn't america's funniest home

636
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:18,880
videos yeah

637
00:22:23,110 --> 00:22:20,880
yeah and you know that's just not fun i

638
00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:23,120
mean it's not funny i watch football

639
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:24,960
and you know when people get injured

640
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:26,480
that's the worst especially when it's

641
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:26,880
like

642
00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:32,320
you know and all that goes through my

643
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:33,760
mind is oh

644
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,280
[\h__\h] they broke their neck or they broke

645
00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:37,280
their back or something this is not good

646
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:38,799
they're gonna be paralyzed

647
00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:40,880
yeah yeah i can't remember if i actually

648
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:42,159
watched i don't think this was live but

649
00:22:44,789 --> 00:22:43,679
i remember there was an olympics ages

650
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:44,799
ago and a girl

651
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:46,559
on vault like missed her hands and

652
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:47,919
landed on her head and

653
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,400
is paralyzed and it was just like you

654
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:52,559
saw like the whole world watched it in

655
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:54,559
warm-ups for the olympics and that was

656
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:56,080
so horrifying there are some falls that

657
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:57,440
just like stand out in my mind

658
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:58,960
but on the other hand you know i saw

659
00:23:01,270 --> 00:23:00,400
something on instagram today of an

660
00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:01,280
influencer

661
00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:03,760
taking a selfie on a rock and like lost

662
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,400
her footing

663
00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:06,400
slid down the smooth surface and was

664
00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:08,080
fine and it was just like

665
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:09,760
you're trying to take a hot selfie and

666
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:11,600
you fell

667
00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:13,840
that's funny because you didn't get hurt

668
00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:15,280
and all that happened was you ruined

669
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:16,720
your little photo up but like that's

670
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:17,600
just funny

671
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:19,440
and frankly you're gonna get more views

672
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:21,120
for kind of you know

673
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:25,200
messing it up than anything else so yeah

674
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:27,600
yeah so so talking more about streaming

675
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:28,480
platforms

676
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:31,360
um yeah amazon prime is great and you

677
00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:33,039
know recently just this month

678
00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:35,200
you know because getting on my my horror

679
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:37,520
binge for the the month of october

680
00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:40,480
um i did sign up for shutter and shutter

681
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:40,880
is

682
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:43,760
a an all horror platform i've never even

683
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:45,039
heard of shutter

684
00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:46,799
yeah it's like shutter with a t or

685
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:48,080
shutter with a d

686
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:51,279
shutter with d s s-h-u-d-d-r and

687
00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:53,279
it is only available on certain

688
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:55,440
platforms and it had only been part of

689
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:57,279
like packages for

690
00:24:00,310 --> 00:23:58,960
like satellite providers and cable

691
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:00,320
providers but then they

692
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:02,080
they recently expanded you can get it

693
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:04,799
now through amazon prime as a prime

694
00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:05,840
channel

695
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:08,559
so it's like an add-on subscription um

696
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:09,840
and it's not that bad i mean through

697
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:11,360
prime is like 4.99 or something like

698
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:12,159
that

699
00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:14,880
but um it's it's focused on horror so

700
00:24:17,830 --> 00:24:15,520
it's it's

701
00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:17,840
all and they do original content too

702
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:19,039
they've got you know some classic

703
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:20,799
horrors

704
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:22,320
and they've got a lot of documentaries

705
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:24,400
and some of the documentaries on there

706
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,400
have been loads of fun going through

707
00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:27,840
because there's one it's called in

708
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:28,960
search of darkness

709
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:30,960
that is an exploration of 80s horror

710
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:33,039
movies so naturally i would love that i

711
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:35,520
did that was great there's another one

712
00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:37,279
called crystal like memories

713
00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:39,520
and it is the complete history of the

714
00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:40,720
friday the 13th

715
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:43,360
franchise and it goes through movie by

716
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,080
movie

717
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:46,720
and it talks with the the producers and

718
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:48,799
directors and writers and actors

719
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:50,480
who were involved in each of these

720
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:52,640
movies and it goes chronologically too

721
00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:55,200
so it's kind of fun you know as a fan of

722
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:56,320
the franchise

723
00:25:01,029 --> 00:24:59,520
to see all this stuff um in that order

724
00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:01,039
so that's been super fun

725
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:03,600
but you're mentioning amazon prime i

726
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:05,440
recently discovered

727
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:08,400
that you know and i've said this for

728
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:10,240
years now i am not a fan

729
00:25:15,909 --> 00:25:13,440
of every single network

730
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:15,919
having their own streaming platform it's

731
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:17,279
just ridiculous

732
00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:20,240
and i'm sorry but i'm not rich and i'm

733
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:21,039
not

734
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:22,799
subscribing to all of these different

735
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:24,320
platforms it's

736
00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:26,159
really frustrating i would like to have

737
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:28,159
you know one or two

738
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:30,320
you know and why not stick with the

739
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,840
largest players that have the largest

740
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,840
catalogs like amazon and netflix

741
00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:35,840
instead of everybody doing their own

742
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:37,840
thing it's ridiculous but even on amazon

743
00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:38,559
now when you

744
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:40,080
are searching through the videos you

745
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:41,760
know you'll see a movie and you'll go ah

746
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:42,480
that's great

747
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:44,400
you click on it you'll see oh you can

748
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:46,320
watch this with a free seven-day trial

749
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:48,320
of amc plus

750
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:51,200
yeah what another service so you're just

751
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:53,679
stacking service on top of service

752
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:55,520
and amazon seems to really like doing

753
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:57,840
that right now but i will say

754
00:26:01,590 --> 00:26:00,640
that i just discovered this because i

755
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:01,600
was looking for

756
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:05,120
certain halloween movies and amazon

757
00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:08,320
was pushing this amc plus as one of

758
00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:09,039
their digi one

759
00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:12,159
one of their channels and

760
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:15,679
looking into amc plus it also

761
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:19,360
allegedly includes shutter

762
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:22,799
so with it you get shutter you get um

763
00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:25,200
sundance and like various other channels

764
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:26,320
too

765
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:29,600
and it includes like live content that

766
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:31,520
you would get if you had the channel

767
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:34,080
amc on your you know through a cable

768
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:34,880
provider

769
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,279
but if you don't have cable so you can

770
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:39,360
see all of amc's content

771
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:41,440
but you can also see like their back

772
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:42,400
catalog of

773
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:44,960
of movies because they're a great

774
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:45,760
channel that

775
00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:48,720
always has um you know horror movies for

776
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:50,880
the month of october

777
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,720
but you also get access to shutter

778
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:54,960
apparently so

779
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:57,679
getting smarter there i think you know

780
00:27:01,750 --> 00:26:59,919
trying to bundle some stuff together

781
00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:01,760
but still i think it's out of control

782
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:04,480
with everybody wanting to be their own

783
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:06,720
delivery network no no it absolutely is

784
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:08,240
i've had i've had this conversation with

785
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:09,520
people where i

786
00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:12,080
have refused to get hulu and refuse to

787
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:13,520
get so many things and people are just

788
00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:15,120
like whatever it's just another five

789
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:15,919
dollars it's

790
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:17,840
not that bad and i'm like except when

791
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,520
you look at every streaming service that

792
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:21,360
you have to have access to to get

793
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:22,720
everything that you want

794
00:27:27,269 --> 00:27:25,840
it ends up being so much more and like i

795
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:27,279
feel like if everybody actually

796
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:28,559
tabulated between

797
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,159
because i have netflix i prime but i buy

798
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:32,159
a lot of very obscure books through

799
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:34,720
amazon um what else do i think i have

800
00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:36,000
that in disney plus and that's it but if

801
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:37,679
you also have like hbo

802
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:39,679
and showtime and what are the other big

803
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:42,000
ones like i mean i also have apple music

804
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:43,440
and you know if you have spotify or

805
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:45,039
whatever your kind of music streaming me

806
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:45,600
of choice

807
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:47,039
and then plus you have like a couple of

808
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:48,399
add-ons because you're like it's only

809
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,679
five dollars but you put them all

810
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:51,279
together and you're paying like eighty

811
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:52,480
dollars a month

812
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:54,960
for streaming when like you can't watch

813
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:56,399
that much stuff

814
00:28:00,830 --> 00:27:58,159
i mean maybe you can in which case maybe

815
00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:00,840
you can if that's your life

816
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:03,039
yeah if that's what you do but i don't

817
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:04,399
have that much time to watch that much

818
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:06,559
streaming content so like no

819
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:09,600
i'm just gonna learn to survive without

820
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:11,200
some of the big ones that people are

821
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:12,960
like just get it i'm like no

822
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:14,880
i also hate that hulu you pay for it and

823
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:17,200
there's still commercials

824
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:18,640
yeah what says does that make that's

825
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,640
ridiculous yeah yeah

826
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:22,320
you can't you know not not only with the

827
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:24,000
the streaming services but

828
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:25,679
you know add software on top of that

829
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:27,520
because now we live in an age where we

830
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:28,640
rent our software

831
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:30,559
right we pay monthly fees for a lot of

832
00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:31,679
the software we use

833
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,360
so you know if you have creative cloud

834
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:35,520
you've got to pay that monthly fee

835
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:36,960
yes i've been fighting with photoshop

836
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:39,120
all day and i was like i do pay for this

837
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:42,480
this should work better yeah i'm not not

838
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:44,720
a fan of renting software either i like

839
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:46,080
owning my software

840
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:48,720
but i feel the same way about digital

841
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:50,880
digital downloads of things like

842
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:53,039
uh for me it's games like i don't like

843
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:53,919
buying

844
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:56,880
a digital copy of a game because i feel

845
00:29:01,029 --> 00:28:59,200
like that can be corrupted or that can

846
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:01,039
disappear or something if i have a

847
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:02,480
physical cartridge

848
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:04,000
i i do this because the switch

849
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:06,080
cartridges are this big um if i have the

850
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,840
physical game

851
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:09,520
i ca it can't go anywhere like i can

852
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:11,039
lose it but then that's just because i'm

853
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:11,600
dumb

854
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:13,440
but like it can't just like disappear

855
00:29:16,710 --> 00:29:15,600
one day there's something about it where

856
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:16,720
like i don't

857
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:18,399
i don't like only having digital

858
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:19,760
versions of things

859
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:22,960
no only all about only is the problem

860
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:25,200
only is the problem and i agree with you

861
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:26,159
i mean i am a

862
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:28,000
i'm a physical fan for sure you know

863
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:30,399
when it comes to movies and music

864
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:33,520
and games i like physical copies um that

865
00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:34,320
being said

866
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:36,799
i mean of course it's hugely convenient

867
00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:37,360
having

868
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:39,279
digital versions of things i know that

869
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:41,120
with like music

870
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:44,000
and and even movies now you know if if i

871
00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:45,279
own a movie

872
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:48,399
but um i see that it's on netflix you

873
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:50,000
know i'll just pop that up because

874
00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:51,520
that's so much easier

875
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:53,840
other than loading the blu-ray player

876
00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:55,279
and putting the disc in

877
00:29:59,350 --> 00:29:57,919
and getting that set up you know netflix

878
00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:59,360
is just so much easier to push a button

879
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:00,799
and have it done

880
00:30:06,149 --> 00:30:03,919
but i do want that physical copy still

881
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,159
yeah yeah for anything that i really

882
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:08,320
love i want to make sure i have one that

883
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:10,960
can't disappear or become corrupted

884
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:13,120
yep that's a good point and i mean

885
00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:14,320
people like to

886
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,559
to you know in defense of digital

887
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:18,480
they'll say well you know these services

888
00:30:21,909 --> 00:30:20,240
you can always go and you know they keep

889
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:21,919
track of all of your downloads and you

890
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:23,679
can go and download again

891
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:26,559
but as we know in the world of digital

892
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:28,240
these companies don't stay around that

893
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:29,039
long

894
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:34,549
yeah i had the issue that when i so i'm

895
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:36,880
from canada which you know but you know

896
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:38,159
for anyone else who doesn't know hi i'm

897
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:40,240
from canada

898
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:43,120
um i when i started my itunes account

899
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:44,399
way back in the day i was living in

900
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,840
canada so it was all linked and then i

901
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:47,520
moved to the us and i switched to a us

902
00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:48,240
account

903
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:51,679
and i was trying to figure out why like

904
00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:53,679
a bunch of music i'd bought back in the

905
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:55,679
day just like disappeared

906
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:57,440
because like again i bought it digitally

907
00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:58,799
because that was starting to be a thing

908
00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,519
and it was

909
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:01,679
you know instantaneously have it as

910
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:04,000
opposed to you know walking down to hmv

911
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:07,120
or whatever um and they

912
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,720
it turned out that like when you switch

913
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:10,559
regions with itunes it doesn't carry

914
00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:12,399
over your purchases into the new region

915
00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:14,080
you have to merge your accounts

916
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:15,919
and i had no idea and i'm like i don't

917
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:17,440
remember what my account was from 10

918
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:18,080
years ago

919
00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:20,240
and i had to find something to prove

920
00:31:25,269 --> 00:31:21,279
that i bought

921
00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:25,279
it to tell the girl that i was speaking

922
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:26,799
to you on the phone that it was in fact

923
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:28,159
me and i wasn't stealing somebody else's

924
00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:29,200
data and it's just like

925
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:31,519
it was such a weird hoop to go through

926
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:33,200
and i only discovered this because

927
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:36,000
itunes kept kicking me out of my account

928
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:37,679
because it was trying to keep me logged

929
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:40,240
into two regions simultaneously

930
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:42,240
and it became it was like a months long

931
00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:44,240
thing to figure out like how to fix it

932
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:47,519
finally did and and i will admit

933
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:49,760
it was remembering when i bought spice

934
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:50,880
world

935
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:54,720
that saved me i was 12.

936
00:31:59,990 --> 00:31:56,880
i was 12. the spice girls are amazing

937
00:32:03,029 --> 00:32:00,000
forever because i was 12 when they got

938
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:03,039
i get it i get it but yeah i mean yeah

939
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:03,519
it was

940
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,679
remembered i i had been

941
00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:09,360
talking about i just remember this night

942
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:11,519
in in undergrad that i was talking to a

943
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:12,159
friend about

944
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:13,600
loving that album and i was like i

945
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:15,679
haven't listened to that and so i think

946
00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:15,919
i

947
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:20,399
late 90s

948
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:23,039
um and i just i bought it on itunes real

949
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:24,399
quick and we listened to it at my house

950
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:25,919
when we were just like drinking wine or

951
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:28,000
something so i vaguely remembered it was

952
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:28,399
like

953
00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:30,559
around fourth year undergrad that i

954
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:32,000
bought it digitally so i'm like

955
00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:34,480
okay that means i can find i can

956
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:35,679
remember the date

957
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:37,760
and i had to like dredge that up from my

958
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:39,360
memory banks to prove to this woman that

959
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:41,039
it was in fact me and can you please

960
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:42,799
help me merge my accounts

961
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:44,640
but yeah the streaming and i mean that's

962
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:46,159
apple like if you

963
00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:48,640
do anything through a smaller company i

964
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:50,159
can't even imagine like

965
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:51,279
you don't know when they're gonna go out

966
00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:52,720
of business you don't know when they're

967
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:53,919
gonna you know not have

968
00:32:57,669 --> 00:32:56,720
the resources for customer service and

969
00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:57,679
stuff

970
00:33:01,509 --> 00:32:59,679
yeah it's a great point i mean a giant

971
00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:01,519
like apple you know you think they're

972
00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:02,080
they're

973
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:04,240
you know one of the most most safe one

974
00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:05,440
of the most secure of all to

975
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:08,640
to go all in and get digital but

976
00:33:11,909 --> 00:33:10,880
yeah you know they make changes all the

977
00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:11,919
time too

978
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:13,760
and i mean look at you know the

979
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:16,240
migration from itunes to apple music

980
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:19,679
and you know forcing you to

981
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:22,240
yeah sync your your music across all

982
00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:23,279
your devices

983
00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:25,120
and i can't get when you do that it

984
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:27,200
erases from other devices i know it just

985
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:28,080
makes things

986
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:30,000
driving me crazy so i have the stuff on

987
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:31,919
my phone that i've owned digitally from

988
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:32,240
like

989
00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:36,080
1930s pop that i found

990
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:38,720
that i cannot put on my phone because it

991
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:39,200
won't

992
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:41,200
talk to my phone for music thinking

993
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:42,960
anymore and i don't get it and i'm just

994
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:45,519
i'm so confused so i just i can never

995
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:47,200
listen to it when i'm traveling or in

996
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:48,000
the car

997
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:51,039
so that's a thing yep i mean i just

998
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:54,799
i just rely on rely on apple music and

999
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:57,519
yeah i mean it it really messed up my

1000
00:34:00,549 --> 00:33:59,600
entire music library because yeah you

1001
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:00,559
know it it

1002
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:03,279
replaced things that i'd added manually

1003
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:05,440
after ripping cds with like

1004
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:07,600
that other versions that were in their

1005
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:08,960
digital library

1006
00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:12,480
and replaced like um you know the album

1007
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:13,119
art

1008
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:14,639
you know stuff even some some of the

1009
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:16,879
stuff that i'd scanned in and replaced

1010
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:17,280
it

1011
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:24,480
artwork yeah so i don't want that is

1012
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:27,280
what's representing my album here i feel

1013
00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:28,960
like you probably have this problem too

1014
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:29,359
that

1015
00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:32,800
um there if a band released because my i

1016
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,639
noticed this most with the album that i

1017
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:36,240
listened to is cheshar cat

1018
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:38,800
from blink 182 that i i there were some

1019
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:40,399
songs that are on teshar cats some songs

1020
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:42,079
that are in buddha and

1021
00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:44,960
when itunes became music or whatever

1022
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:45,839
whatever happened

1023
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:47,280
it just kind of like mushed them

1024
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:49,520
together so i had manually because i own

1025
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:51,839
all the physical cds i had manually put

1026
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:52,320
them all

1027
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:53,919
in and transferred them over to my phone

1028
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:55,760
before that happened and all of a sudden

1029
00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:56,399
they're just like

1030
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,720
not in album order anymore and you can't

1031
00:35:01,270 --> 00:35:00,560
like i don't think buddha exists

1032
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:01,280
digitally

1033
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:03,280
and it's like if i want to listen to tom

1034
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:04,880
having a cult or did mark have a cold

1035
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:06,240
mark had a cold that day

1036
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:08,240
and he sounds like [\h__\h] on that album i

1037
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:09,280
can't listen to it

1038
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:11,040
because it just replaced it with other

1039
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:12,240
tracks that are not the ones that i

1040
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:13,760
manually brought in it's just like

1041
00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:16,800
come on this is so dumb and i can't even

1042
00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:19,119
i still have the cd i can't even get it

1043
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:21,839
onto my phone anymore

1044
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:25,040
okay it's frustrating it's frustrating

1045
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:26,320
these little things that we think

1046
00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:28,079
technology should be able to do all

1047
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:29,599
these things and make it really seamless

1048
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:30,000
for us

1049
00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:31,760
and somehow it just makes it so much

1050
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:33,920
harder to make it work

1051
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:36,480
yeah yes oh our love and hate

1052
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,320
relationship with technology

1053
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:40,800
i know i feel like i feel like i just

1054
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:42,000
feel old

1055
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:43,359
as i like have all these luddite

1056
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:45,280
tendencies of just like nope

1057
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:46,560
don't even want to have to look at

1058
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:48,960
screens don't want to have to deal with

1059
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:51,040
anything digital because it just breaks

1060
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,079
on me

1061
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:54,720
and back in my day you know it's it's

1062
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:56,400
back in my day yeah

1063
00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:58,800
by the way i do like to point out that

1064
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:00,880
both you and i are using

1065
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:04,240
analog microphones not usb microphones

1066
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:04,720
but

1067
00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:06,880
that is true that being said and they're

1068
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:08,720
passed digitally into our computers

1069
00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:12,000
but yeah yeah now i'm i'm with you but

1070
00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:14,320
uh yeah technology is awesome and that's

1071
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,680
something let's

1072
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:17,200
most likely talk a lot about on this

1073
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:19,359
show too because we both love and live

1074
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:25,670
it's a frustrating frustrating mistress

1075
00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:27,839
i know i know all the things that make

1076
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:29,599
our lives better but then

1077
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:32,400
yeah just break just that little much

1078
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:33,520
that you just kind of

1079
00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:36,240
wanted never but at the same time i had

1080
00:36:41,829 --> 00:36:38,839
this thought once i was in

1081
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:41,839
kansas going out to abilene kansas i got

1082
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:42,880
in a rental car

1083
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:45,760
i popped the address of my airbn it

1084
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:47,520
wasn't even an airbnb so it was a b b

1085
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:49,680
that boasted a vcr in every room and it

1086
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:51,760
was like the best place i stayed in it

1087
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:52,079
was

1088
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:54,000
it's the sweetest little bnb and i've

1089
00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:55,680
like made friends with the owner and i'm

1090
00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:57,040
dying to go back

1091
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:59,359
um i just put the address in my gps and

1092
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:01,119
i just blindly followed it

1093
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:04,880
and i realized if i had to look at a map

1094
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:07,280
and actually like fig you know make sure

1095
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:09,119
that i don't miss the turn

1096
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:11,599
i would be screwed like this is a piece

1097
00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:13,680
of technology that i

1098
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:16,720
am so dependent on because i've never

1099
00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:19,839
not had it in driving and then that's

1100
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:21,680
where i'm like oh this is a bad thing

1101
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:22,240
because i

1102
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:24,160
again before we started recording i

1103
00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:25,200
mentioned that i would like to learn how

1104
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:26,560
to change a tire so that i can be a

1105
00:37:30,310 --> 00:37:27,520
functional adult

1106
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:30,320
i feel like being able to get around and

1107
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:32,480
rely on maps and not be scared

1108
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:36,720
is another really good adult ability

1109
00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:39,520
yeah but the problem is you know coming

1110
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:40,560
from somebody who

1111
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:49,190
it's tough because you know maps do

1112
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:51,680
change a lot yeah they're updated all

1113
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:52,400
the time

1114
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:54,240
and when you buy a map or a map book

1115
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:55,680
anything that's going to be useful

1116
00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:57,280
you know she's most likely going to be a

1117
00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:58,720
book that has multiple

1118
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:01,920
um areas around you where you travel

1119
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:04,800
uh yeah it gets outdated really fast but

1120
00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:05,359
also

1121
00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:08,800
it means like uh the good old days

1122
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:11,839
you have to pull over yeah you know yeah

1123
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,599
you can't be flipping through a map

1124
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:14,880
while you're driving

1125
00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:17,040
so well i was always even within the

1126
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:17,920
city

1127
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:21,920
map books

1128
00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:24,160
and i would be the one flipping through

1129
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:26,800
and finding things when mom's driving

1130
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:29,440
so i remember doing that but i never had

1131
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:30,240
a car

1132
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:35,359
and within a year got a smartphone

1133
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,640
so it it was like i just i didn't drive

1134
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:40,640
much because i live on a i had a city

1135
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:42,400
with public transportation i never had

1136
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:43,520
to

1137
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:45,119
also you know when you grow up in a city

1138
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:46,400
and you kind of know it like i could

1139
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:48,079
probably still drive from my parents

1140
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:49,680
house to my high school

1141
00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:51,520
and have no idea what any of the street

1142
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:53,839
names are right but i've done that

1143
00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:55,599
been on that ride so many times i could

1144
00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:56,960
probably get there

1145
00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:59,920
which is weird but like that maps maps

1146
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:01,359
don't talk to you and that's a that's a

1147
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:03,280
big part of navigation

1148
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:06,720
um you know when you had a co-pilot a

1149
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:08,720
passenger with you looking at the map

1150
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:10,880
i mean that's a horror movie right there

1151
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:11,920
i mean that's in in

1152
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:13,599
almost every horror movie where people

1153
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:15,200
are in a car and you've got

1154
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:16,960
you know the wife or somebody in the

1155
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:18,240
passenger seat

1156
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:20,480
reading the map and everybody's yelling

1157
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:21,280
no mom

1158
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:24,000
that's not the right right uh highway

1159
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:25,599
you're not you're reading it wrong

1160
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:27,040
nobody can figure out how to read the

1161
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:28,720
map they're lost they can't find where

1162
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:30,160
they are on the map

1163
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:33,599
i mean gps is amazing

1164
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:36,800
yeah when it works i i know the only

1165
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:37,520
time

1166
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:40,480
my favorite gps failing me story was one

1167
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:42,160
of the first times i actually

1168
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:44,640
relied on it and i was going out to the

1169
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:46,320
kennedy space center

1170
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:48,480
and i'd never been before and i just put

1171
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:50,320
kennedy space center in my gps and i

1172
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:51,040
followed it

1173
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:54,320
and only when i realized

1174
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:56,160
i was seeing no other cars and no other

1175
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:57,839
humans it was taking me to the shuttle

1176
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,960
landing facility

1177
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,480
which is like a protected government

1178
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:02,160
site and you can't just drive in there

1179
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:03,440
because there are two caught like

1180
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:05,599
causeway bridges over on tamara island

1181
00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:07,040
and i'd taken the wrong one because i

1182
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:09,200
had to put in kennedy visitor center

1183
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:11,040
and i was so confused and i was meeting

1184
00:40:14,069 --> 00:40:12,400
people that were giving me a tour and i

1185
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:14,079
felt so bad

1186
00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:16,560
um and it was the first time i'd ever

1187
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:18,079
like i think this person i'd ever even

1188
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:19,520
gotten a rental car

1189
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:21,359
um and it was just like this big little

1190
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:22,720
adventure for myself

1191
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:26,400
and i had security guards yelling at me

1192
00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:27,359
at nasa

1193
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:29,839
that's always fun yeah so that was fun

1194
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:31,359
but yeah that was when i learned to kind

1195
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:32,960
of just like check it but i also you

1196
00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:33,359
know

1197
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:36,079
completely blindly followed it from

1198
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:37,520
orlando and was just like

1199
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:42,319
it's fine i'll get there and it was yeah

1200
00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:46,400
i didn't die so it got me there

1201
00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:49,280
yeah um gives you a good story it's it's

1202
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:51,200
a great story it's a great story i

1203
00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:54,000
eventually got to see the kennedy space

1204
00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:55,839
center so it all you know all

1205
00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:00,880
that ends well it was it was a weird day

1206
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:03,040
most of your days are weird i also i

1207
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:04,800
also that was the drive that i

1208
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:07,040
didn't think about getting an aux cable

1209
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:07,920
to connect

1210
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:11,040
the phone to my to the car stereo

1211
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:14,319
or a charger cable to keep it charged so

1212
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:17,440
i was too afraid to listen to the radio

1213
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:17,920
and miss

1214
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:19,760
any of the directions and i was also

1215
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:21,280
afraid that like this is back in the day

1216
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:22,400
where there was like no thumb print

1217
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:23,520
obviously on the phone you had to like

1218
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:24,640
physically unlock it

1219
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:27,359
i i was like afraid of letting it turn

1220
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:29,040
off so i just kept like i just was

1221
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:30,000
sitting there just like

1222
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:32,079
like listening to it obsessively like in

1223
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:34,000
silence for like two hours it was a

1224
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:35,280
really bad drive

1225
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:37,280
and before i left i went to a target and

1226
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:39,040
got like the charging cables and now i

1227
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:40,560
keep charging cables and aux cables on

1228
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:42,480
every one of them and adapters

1229
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:44,400
in every one of my suitcases just in

1230
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:45,520
case um

1231
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:47,760
because that was awful a two-hour drive

1232
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:49,200
not being able to listen to music not

1233
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:51,520
having music and radio was terrible

1234
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:52,800
who listens to who wants to listen to

1235
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:54,720
radio ever um

1236
00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:55,760
what was the last time you listened to

1237
00:42:03,349 --> 00:41:58,880
the radio like just regular

1238
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:06,550
and i've got to say i don't remember

1239
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:08,880
like not satellite radio because that's

1240
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:09,680
that's yeah

1241
00:42:13,109 --> 00:42:12,319
that's different yeah that's different

1242
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:13,119
um

1243
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:16,319
i will say it's probably two

1244
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:19,680
or three years ago um i did try

1245
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:21,680
cycling through because you know with

1246
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:23,040
terrestrial radio

1247
00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:25,599
um stations change ownerships all the

1248
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:26,319
time

1249
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:28,880
so you know stations that i might have

1250
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:30,720
listened to when i was younger

1251
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:32,960
um aren't around anymore the formats

1252
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:34,640
have changed on those stations

1253
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:38,400
um you know and i mean just

1254
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:43,109
i don't know environment is not what it

1255
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,640
was um

1256
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:46,560
you know when i was listening to radio

1257
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:48,160
certainly um and that's not how people

1258
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:49,599
discover music anymore

1259
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:52,720
um i don't think there is a an

1260
00:42:56,829 --> 00:42:54,079
alternative station

1261
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:56,839
in in phoenix anymore you know and that

1262
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,359
certainly um

1263
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,440
this type of station that would that did

1264
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:03,599
play you know the punk and the ska i

1265
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:05,440
mean it actually had like a

1266
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:08,000
ska punk was the name of the name of the

1267
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:09,920
nightly show that our weekly show i

1268
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:10,480
guess

1269
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:12,400
here in phoenix that you know would play

1270
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:14,240
all that stuff but also

1271
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:17,520
you know the the radio stations um back

1272
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:20,880
in the the late 90s early early 2000s

1273
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,960
um were the ones putting on a lot of the

1274
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:24,880
big music festivals

1275
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:27,119
you know they had the advertiser money

1276
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:28,560
they were they were the ones bringing

1277
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:28,960
those

1278
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:37,760
i don't think that really happens

1279
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:39,200
anymore because

1280
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:42,000
radio is is barely a thing i mean i know

1281
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,440
the stations exist i know they're

1282
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:45,359
they're doing their thing but

1283
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:47,520
but i mean like their audience has to be

1284
00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:48,880
so small

1285
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:51,359
i'm so curious how they stay afloat

1286
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:51,920
because

1287
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:54,880
yeah my big thing with radio is even if

1288
00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:56,319
i find a station that has

1289
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:58,319
the kind of music i want to listen to

1290
00:44:02,069 --> 00:44:00,079
it's just the same stuff

1291
00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:02,079
it's just the same like 10 songs

1292
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:03,440
constantly i'm just like

1293
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,960
great i love this song and i'm going to

1294
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:06,400
hate it by the end of the month because

1295
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:07,599
you're going to play it into the ground

1296
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:09,359
instead of just allowing me to enjoy it

1297
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:10,079
when i

1298
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:12,720
want to hear it i don't know i used to

1299
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:13,520
turn on

1300
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:16,640
radio periodically because i would

1301
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:18,240
actively

1302
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:21,520
try to

1303
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:24,079
i guess educate myself you know bring

1304
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:25,280
myself up to speed

1305
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:29,119
on new music because you know i don't

1306
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:31,440
find new music you know when i was

1307
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:32,960
younger i would i would discover new

1308
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:34,400
music by the radio

1309
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:38,000
or by seeing bands at concerts um

1310
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,920
you know so anymore i listened to the

1311
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:41,440
same stuff that i

1312
00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:44,800
listened to when i was growing up so

1313
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:46,160
you know periodically i would try to

1314
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:47,839
turn on the radio and

1315
00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:50,000
embarrassingly but not i mean i was

1316
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:51,040
trying to

1317
00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:54,079
be an educated music fan and listen to

1318
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:56,079
even like pop stuff and and different

1319
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:57,680
things that were just like you know top

1320
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:58,400
20

1321
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:01,520
and try to make sure that i wasn't so

1322
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:02,960
out of it i wasn't aware

1323
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:06,720
of what the pulse was in popular music

1324
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:08,800
and what people were were thinking was

1325
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:09,760
good music

1326
00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:11,520
so you know i'd occasionally scan

1327
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:13,359
through the the pop stations in the top

1328
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:14,800
20 or whatever

1329
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,839
and because you know for spans of time

1330
00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:19,520
and it's not a bad thing i don't care

1331
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:20,800
anymore i mean i'm

1332
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:24,079
i'm beyond an age where i'm not really

1333
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:25,440
concerned about uh

1334
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:27,839
worrying if i don't know who a certain

1335
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:29,680
artist is because i don't know

1336
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:32,640
the large majority of current artists

1337
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:33,040
but

1338
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:34,800
you know people would mention a name on

1339
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:37,440
on you know the news or i'd see it

1340
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:39,119
see it in social media and i have no

1341
00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:40,319
idea who that is and they're like the

1342
00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:42,079
biggest artist of the time

1343
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:45,440
um yeah i try to at least know a song or

1344
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:47,680
you know something to form at least a

1345
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:48,880
half-ass opinion

1346
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:51,440
of whether or not i like this person or

1347
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:52,240
whatever

1348
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:55,040
but uh yeah i mean that was short-lived

1349
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:56,079
and again i mean

1350
00:46:02,230 --> 00:45:59,280
you and i have have limited uh free time

1351
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:02,240
in in our lives outside of work so you

1352
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:03,599
know that that time was

1353
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:07,280
was uh you know not not very much so i

1354
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:09,119
wasn't able to do a proper experiment

1355
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:10,400
with that mostly

1356
00:46:14,309 --> 00:46:12,400
but yeah and now i don't drive at all i

1357
00:46:14,710 --> 00:46:14,319
mean a lot of people don't drive but i

1358
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:14,720
mean i

1359
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:16,480
i'm lucky i work from home regularly

1360
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:18,880
anyway but certainly in pandemic times

1361
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:21,680
you know there isn't a commute on my end

1362
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,480
so

1363
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:24,640
you know that's when i would listen to

1364
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:25,520
the radio

1365
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:28,480
or or music or anything most of the time

1366
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:29,040
so

1367
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:30,400
it's not happening and it hasn't

1368
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,160
happened for years so

1369
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:34,400
i am so out of touch with with modern

1370
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:35,920
music

1371
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:37,760
i follow the same bands that i always

1372
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:39,520
have exactly

1373
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:41,520
and speaking of of music and the bands

1374
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:44,160
we've always followed

1375
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:47,440
is there any music that you know has

1376
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:48,400
come out

1377
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:52,319
during uh this year during the lockdown

1378
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:55,440
that you know has stood out to you

1379
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:58,079
or or any event there's been a lot of

1380
00:47:01,270 --> 00:47:00,000
lots of musical events lots of special

1381
00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:01,280
things that have happened because of the

1382
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:02,960
pandemic

1383
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:05,680
i try i've tried to watch a couple of

1384
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:07,599
shows a couple of the virtual

1385
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:10,640
concerts and it just felt so weird yeah

1386
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:11,280
um

1387
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,119
i couldn't i don't know it just it felt

1388
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:15,280
like

1389
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:18,480
think the first one i watched was

1390
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:21,440
it was a drop cake murphy's did the um

1391
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:21,680
st

1392
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:24,160
patrick's day show and it was like kind

1393
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:25,920
of fun but it was also like i'm not

1394
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:27,920
gonna sit and watch this show like on

1395
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:28,800
the couch

1396
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:31,520
broadcasting from facebook on my tv like

1397
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:32,480
that's weird

1398
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:34,079
um so i watched a bit of it it was like

1399
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:35,760
kind of fun but it more like

1400
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:38,240
made me really sad that i couldn't be at

1401
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:39,280
a dropkick show

1402
00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:41,839
sure um and yeah there's just something

1403
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:43,599
about it that's like it's not it's not

1404
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:44,640
as fun

1405
00:47:48,309 --> 00:47:46,800
um so i haven't really been watching any

1406
00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:48,319
of those have you watched

1407
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:50,720
any of those i've like no no i have a

1408
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:51,680
couple

1409
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:54,640
i haven't um you know and for the same

1410
00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:55,440
reason

1411
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:57,280
well for what you just mentioned but you

1412
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:58,480
know for the same reason that

1413
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:01,440
you know you sometimes buy dvds or or

1414
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:02,400
blu-rays

1415
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:05,760
of bands who release like live

1416
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:09,359
yeah videos and it's it's just like them

1417
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:11,119
a video of them live doing their thing

1418
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:12,720
at a concert you're all

1419
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:15,200
that's fun and yeah i might watch that

1420
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:16,000
occasionally

1421
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:17,920
but there's no replacement for the live

1422
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:19,520
experience i mean that's why you go

1423
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:22,960
to concerts instead of listening to

1424
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:26,480
you know music exactly is there a live

1425
00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:28,559
album that you even listen to i feel

1426
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:29,839
like even live now

1427
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:32,880
like the only one i like is blink 182's

1428
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,200
because i saw that sure

1429
00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:37,119
and like that's the only and also

1430
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:39,440
nirvana unplugged at mtv is just a great

1431
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:40,160
album

1432
00:48:44,549 --> 00:48:43,920
like there i don't ever really need to

1433
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:44,559
hear

1434
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:46,880
just like the punctuating crowd noises

1435
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:48,400
because it's sort of like cool

1436
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:51,200
the song is good it is i don't i don't

1437
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:52,800
know it just like it doesn't give me the

1438
00:48:56,950 --> 00:48:54,559
same feeling when it's just like oh

1439
00:48:57,670 --> 00:48:56,960
i didn't get to see that that's sad as

1440
00:49:03,750 --> 00:48:57,680
opposed to

1441
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:07,670
um yeah definitely same thing for me um

1442
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:10,960
i don't know yeah it's it's always been

1443
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,640
weird to me just like watching live

1444
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:14,400
shows or listening to live shows

1445
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:16,160
and you're right there are some albums

1446
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:17,520
some live albums that

1447
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:20,240
that i will listen to just because it's

1448
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:21,119
a slightly

1449
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:23,760
different version sometimes of those

1450
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:24,800
songs that you've heard

1451
00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:27,040
so many times you know i like this one

1452
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:28,720
it's kind of different it's kind of cool

1453
00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:32,000
but mostly no

1454
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:34,079
because especially the music that we're

1455
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:35,520
talking about here the music that you

1456
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:36,400
and i love

1457
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:39,680
um rowdy punk concerts uh

1458
00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:41,760
live usually is is not the best

1459
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:43,680
representation of the band

1460
00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:46,720
musically you know and

1461
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:48,559
really there's there's also usually a

1462
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,240
lot of like

1463
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:51,920
drunken conversation and that's the

1464
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:53,599
worst part of the show

1465
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:54,880
and that's not that's what you don't

1466
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,720
want to show and that's really

1467
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,400
you know tapped onto the album so you're

1468
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,240
listening to music with a lot of

1469
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:02,160
banter you know shut the [\h__\h] up and

1470
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:03,280
play music

1471
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,720
and like i feel like half the fun of

1472
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:06,400
going to a punk show like i'll go to a

1473
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:07,920
show of a band that is not even my

1474
00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:08,880
favorite band

1475
00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:10,640
because half of the draw is just like

1476
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:12,000
the energy that is

1477
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:13,680
in that space with a bunch of people who

1478
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:15,200
are just like love the music and

1479
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,520
nobody cares who you are they just they

1480
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:19,359
just care that you also love this band

1481
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:20,880
and it's just this like really lovely

1482
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,319
shared experience that

1483
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:24,880
is i've always really really liked since

1484
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:26,480
i started going to shows and i was like

1485
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:28,079
i don't know i guess i was old but

1486
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:29,680
some people said i was like 15 when i

1487
00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:31,599
went to my first punk shows um

1488
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:32,800
because my parents didn't necessarily

1489
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:35,040
want me going um but

1490
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:36,720
it always it was always nice like i was

1491
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:38,640
kind of the i don't know

1492
00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:40,240
i was the weirdo who got along with

1493
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:42,319
everybody in high school but i felt like

1494
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:42,880
at

1495
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:44,480
a show is just like okay i'm not weird

1496
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:46,480
here i'm just like this is just kind of

1497
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:49,520
where i am um and listening to a live

1498
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:50,640
album is like

1499
00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:52,800
it just makes me more sad that like

1500
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:54,319
there's no energy with it it's like you

1501
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:56,079
hear the energy a little bit

1502
00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:57,599
as i look over at my speaker like it's

1503
00:51:01,829 --> 00:50:59,359
going to say something to me um

1504
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:01,839
you hear the energy of it but you don't

1505
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:03,920
get that feeling of it and like half the

1506
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:05,200
point is going

1507
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:07,839
live to hear the less than perfect

1508
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:09,760
renditions of songs to hear the artists

1509
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:11,520
who can no longer sing like they could

1510
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:13,920
20 years ago but go for it anyways

1511
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:17,520
um and and engage in that like shared

1512
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:18,240
experience

1513
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:22,160
feeling the music yeah

1514
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:24,000
yeah yeah if you if if i'm going to

1515
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:25,359
listen to

1516
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:28,800
you know the not best version of a song

1517
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:31,040
that i love

1518
00:51:35,109 --> 00:51:32,720
why like why would i do that i'm not

1519
00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:35,119
getting i'm not getting the joy of being

1520
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:37,359
there live being in the pit for it

1521
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:39,280
so let's just listen to the album where

1522
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:41,119
it's like super polished and it like is

1523
00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:41,839
a fuller

1524
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:46,000
sound yeah yeah so i will say

1525
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:49,599
and and you will i'm sure agree with me

1526
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:53,119
that i think what goldfinger did

1527
00:51:56,309 --> 00:51:54,880
during the early early months of the

1528
00:52:04,870 --> 00:51:56,319
pandemic so fun

1529
00:52:07,589 --> 00:52:04,880
was epic

1530
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:07,599
so yeah goldfinger did these these uh

1531
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:09,839
these quarantine videos basically

1532
00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:11,599
where they had the band on their

1533
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:13,280
separate locations

1534
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:14,559
recording at the same time and they

1535
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:16,800
would cut these videos together of them

1536
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:19,440
playing songs and it was super fun so

1537
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:22,400
they they brought me lots of smiles yeah

1538
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:25,280
i would honestly rather see that as a

1539
00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:26,400
concert

1540
00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:30,400
lighting and everything but

1541
00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:32,480
shot like a music video like that to me

1542
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:33,839
is more fun where it's like

1543
00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:35,200
it was actually super fun to see those

1544
00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:37,119
guys in their houses kind of like

1545
00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:38,480
doing their own little thing like very

1546
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:40,720
awkwardly almost in their space like

1547
00:52:44,710 --> 00:52:42,480
wanting to jump around but don't have

1548
00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:44,720
the room to and it kind of gave me

1549
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:46,960
more of that feeling of like the energy

1550
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:48,640
that that work of those recordings gave

1551
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:50,480
me was the energy of like we're having

1552
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:52,240
fun even though we're all in this really

1553
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:53,599
shitty situation because we're all in

1554
00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:55,119
this shitty situation together so we're

1555
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:56,480
gonna have some fun with it

1556
00:53:00,309 --> 00:52:59,040
as opposed to we're playing at a venue

1557
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:00,319
that you can't go to

1558
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:03,599
which just feels mean so yeah i would i

1559
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:04,559
would love to see

1560
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:08,319
more like um yeah more of those shows of

1561
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:08,640
like

1562
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:10,640
we're we're doing a little acoustic set

1563
00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:12,640
and we're all six feet apart and we're

1564
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:14,240
just kind of in a space or we're in

1565
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:16,160
separate locations and we're live i mean

1566
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:17,760
you can't really simulcast that i don't

1567
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:18,079
think

1568
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:20,640
yeah but i mean i get your point like

1569
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:21,280
here

1570
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:29,200
can't replicate a concert you can't

1571
00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:31,280
it's not the same thing but if you're

1572
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:32,960
you're put creating these videos

1573
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:34,319
together

1574
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:36,240
where everybody is like separate but you

1575
00:53:39,430 --> 00:53:37,760
know contributing to this thing and you

1576
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:39,440
get to see the band sort of

1577
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:40,960
individually in their l their own

1578
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:43,200
element it's super fun so i thought what

1579
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:44,960
goldfinger did was great

1580
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:46,640
i yeah i think i think what we're

1581
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:48,319
getting to the meetup here is like the

1582
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:50,319
experience of music

1583
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:53,040
does not translate digitally yeah so you

1584
00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:54,400
have to adapt it and

1585
00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:56,240
i feel like goldfinger's the only band

1586
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:58,079
that i've seen at least i've seen it

1587
00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:59,520
i'm trying to remember if i've seen any

1588
00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:01,599
others it might just be

1589
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:03,200
old recordings that i've seen coming out

1590
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:05,839
but um but yeah the experience and like

1591
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:07,359
translating the experience for a

1592
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:09,280
different time frame and different like

1593
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:11,440
you know situation is so important

1594
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:12,319
because

1595
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:15,200
yeah yeah i think i think that's now

1596
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:15,760
that i'm

1597
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:18,319
i'm thinking out loud with some gin now

1598
00:54:20,950 --> 00:54:18,880
um

1599
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:20,960
yeah music music there's a good part of

1600
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:22,400
music that is especially stuff that we

1601
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:22,960
listen to

1602
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:26,079
that's experiential as opposed to just

1603
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:29,119
the song yeah

1604
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:32,079
it is um and again live live music

1605
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:33,280
there's

1606
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:36,240
many elements to it that make it special

1607
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:37,040
and you're right

1608
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:40,079
it can't be replicated digitally yeah oh

1609
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:40,799
well

1610
00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:43,280
we'll get back to it soon we will we

1611
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:44,799
will and i can't

1612
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:46,240
wait that's one of the that's one of the

1613
00:54:49,829 --> 00:54:47,920
things i'm waiting

1614
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:49,839
for and most excited about like i can

1615
00:54:52,789 --> 00:54:51,440
cook for myself it's fine

1616
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:52,799
i would love to go to a restaurant but

1617
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:55,040
whatever i can't

1618
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:57,920
make a show using that so i am very very

1619
00:55:02,630 --> 00:54:59,599
excited to get back out

1620
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:02,640
safely there's a vaccine after

1621
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,400
like i'm not trying to rush anything

1622
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:07,040
before people yell at us in the comments

1623
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:08,960
um when it's safe and when it's when

1624
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:09,920
everyone's able to because the other

1625
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:10,960
thing i've been thinking about like i've

1626
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,480
got friends who work and like

1627
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:14,000
work at venues and work in promotion

1628
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:15,920
like they're all hurting too and

1629
00:55:19,829 --> 00:55:18,720
get get shows back going for like all of

1630
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:19,839
the people whose

1631
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,839
livelihood depends on it but also for

1632
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:23,280
the sake of like

1633
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:26,400
having shared experiences with people

1634
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:29,760
yep and boy oh boy you and i can't wait

1635
00:55:33,829 --> 00:55:30,720
to travel again

1636
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:33,839
and i'm missing vegas so much i know oh

1637
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:35,920
my god

1638
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:38,799
uh i know as soon as as soon as we can

1639
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:39,760
we have to

1640
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:43,760
we'll do this live in vegas

1641
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:46,240
remember when we over that christmas we

1642
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:48,000
both were able to write it off at the

1643
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:50,000
business expense because we technically

1644
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:51,760
made content

1645
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:54,319
we did don't no we did make content but

1646
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:55,920
it was just really funny that i was like

1647
00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:57,440
oh yeah this i can actually write off

1648
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:59,280
this trip because we went in part to

1649
00:56:01,589 --> 00:56:01,040
create content and strategize about this

1650
00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:01,599
stuff

1651
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:03,520
and to be fair several vegas business

1652
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:05,280
trips yes yeah

1653
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:07,520
i feel i have a lot of friends that i've

1654
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:08,880
worked with or collaborated with and we

1655
00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:10,400
just like we'll hang out socially and

1656
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:11,920
before you know it you just end up like

1657
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:13,119
talking about work stuff and it's like

1658
00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:15,200
this just became a business meeting

1659
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:17,200
this is so i mean i feel like that's the

1660
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:18,720
free i mean i know you're not freelance

1661
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:20,400
but like that's when you do freelance

1662
00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:22,559
projects and like our creative type

1663
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:24,319
everything you do ends up being business

1664
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:25,839
because

1665
00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:28,000
it's it's what you love which is great

1666
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:30,079
so we'll have to take a business trip

1667
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:32,960
to vegas and record some stuff try to

1668
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:34,960
drag someone else fun to

1669
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:38,000
record with us and you know

1670
00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:41,200
we can make that happen i mean

1671
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:44,240
one of the uh the rules on this show

1672
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:46,640
is is when the drink is gone just

1673
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:48,319
looking at my empty glass

1674
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:49,760
the show is gone so

1675
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:52,079
[Laughter]

1676
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:56,079
all right well i mean bottles

1677
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:59,680
yeah we do we do episodes with big beers

1678
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:01,280
yeah for sure

1679
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:03,359
i haven't got i'll have to i'll have to

1680
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:05,040
brave the liquor store again

1681
00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:08,640
then i can make this dream a reality

1682
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:11,119
do you do your liquor stores deliver

1683
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,880
they probably do

1684
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:14,720
they might deliver i know they do a

1685
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:16,720
pickup option so you can order what but

1686
00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:18,160
it's part of the part of the fun

1687
00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:20,000
is so the liquor store by me used to be

1688
00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:21,839
an office depot so you know how big

1689
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:22,880
office depots are

1690
00:57:26,069 --> 00:57:24,960
it is a massive liquor store and i just

1691
00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:26,079
love going through

1692
00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:27,920
their sections and just finding it's a

1693
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:30,000
toy store seasonal stuff that i've never

1694
00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:31,599
tried it's actually i've been during the

1695
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:33,040
pandemic i just haven't

1696
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:34,799
honestly i just haven't wanted to walk

1697
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:36,480
over and schlep all the bottles back

1698
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:37,040
myself

1699
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,640
i get it um which is why i haven't done

1700
00:57:41,589 --> 00:57:40,720
it but you know what it's finally

1701
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:41,599
cooling down

1702
00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:44,559
enough that i can walk over there i am a

1703
00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:46,799
super wimp for heat it's two blocks away

1704
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:48,240
from me it's not that far

1705
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:51,040
i cannot justify driving but i also

1706
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:54,480
don't want to be sweaty

1707
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:55,680
yeah and you're carrying all the stuff

1708
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:58,000
so no i'll i'll go because i want to get

1709
00:58:01,589 --> 00:57:59,280
some good seasonal beers because i

1710
00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:01,599
haven't done that yet

1711
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:04,000
yep got to make that happen yeah because

1712
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:05,680
we both live in places where seasons

1713
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:07,599
don't happen

1714
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:10,480
that's true seasonal beers feel weird

1715
00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,200
when it's still

1716
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,359
roastingly hot and beautiful every

1717
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:15,599
single day that's how we have seasons

1718
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:18,400
based on the alcohol we drink

1719
00:58:23,370 --> 00:58:19,839
i like that i like that i've never